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10 years 9 months ago #20277 by Reality Sound
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The measurement some time ago was before the foam/fiberglass resin throat mod. I hope I can recreate the exact same environment and take another measurement that would be worthy of a somewhat accurate A/B comparison.
The servodrive horn length is ALOT longer than these things. Would be something else if it went anywhere as low as them. :whistle:

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10 years 9 months ago #20280 by Dref
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It might be impossible to recreate the exact conditions you had last time as there where quite a few obstacles as far as I remember. ;)

It is not only the horn length that determines how low it goes. It could be interesting to see a measurement of the servos and this horn under the same conditions.

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10 years 3 months ago #21149 by Reality Sound
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I am going to throw a couple of these together (as soon as my new saw gets here) Dref I am going to try the letterbox this time ;)
What do you think?
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10 years 3 months ago #21150 by bgrade
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186 might be easier chamber to match volume wise. Same horn other than chamber. On the 1850s (I built 4 of them) the magnet is pretty close, although slightly diagonal to the bottom chamber panel. Volume wise, I think the chamber on the top driver would end being too big. You can do the pipe trick you did with the kicks at the start of this thread, and it should not be too much of a problem that they are different sizes, but the two chambers together will be larger than two of the chambers on the original design and it might end up closer to a dual 186 anyhow. Cheaper drivers for those though.

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10 years 3 months ago #21151 by bgrade
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Oh, I was just thinking about it, and you could actually make the top chamber smaller quite easily with a straight flat panel at the top about where it says 190 if you really wanted it to behave like a 1850. It would be a strong brace too, considering it would almost exactly opposite the first two braces in the horn path. Little bit of dead space, but not too much.

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10 years 3 months ago #21156 by Reality Sound
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I was going more towards the 186. A looser horn path and bigger chamber.
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Green being the letterbox, black being a pipe or slot of some sort to equalize the rear chamber size. It would be easy after the fact to make the chamber size smaller if needed.

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10 years 3 months ago #21157 by Dref
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Any reason why you are going for an S-fold this time?

Are you planning on using the exact same horn as the 186/1850 horn?
If you tell me what driver you will be using and an estimate of the rear chamber volume, then I can make you a quick sim if you like?

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10 years 3 months ago #21159 by Reality Sound
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I am going to bend all the horn path ply. Easier to do with the S-fold style. I am up for a challenge B) The folding won't be exactly the same as the the 186, but similar- smoother expansion.
Thanks Dref, but I have no idea what drivers I will be using yet.....

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10 years 3 months ago #21160 by Dref
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I am looking forward to see what you come up with. Shouldn't you give them their own thread btw?

Have you considered a layout like Mykey's C4-S? It doesn't come much smoother than that without significant amounts of wasted space. (Only single driver though)

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10 years 3 months ago #21161 by Reality Sound
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I am not familiar with the C4-S. Do tell......

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