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13 years 7 months ago #16586
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There's always room for more though Lev.
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13 years 7 months ago #16587
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as I said in my first post, you can use bigger driver with simpler layout and more compact cabs. But the challenge to me is using a 12" to drop to a dubby frequency using scoopy layout. Plus I already modeled and listened my 18" scoop design
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levyte357 wrote: And for 1x room house party, 1x 2x18" reflex or 1x 18" mini scoop rules.
as I said in my first post, you can use bigger driver with simpler layout and more compact cabs. But the challenge to me is using a 12" to drop to a dubby frequency using scoopy layout. Plus I already modeled and listened my 18" scoop design

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13 years 7 months ago #16588
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<Obstinately, hard headedly, agrees..>
I understand Bitzo, experimenting does often reveal new techniques.
Guess I did all my experimenting with 12" drivers whilst at school.. <The joys of 2x12" reflex cab + 32Hz band on graphic eq smiley2 >
\"When in Vegas, do as the vegasians do\".
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NITZ V1505 wrote: There's always room for more though Lev.
<Obstinately, hard headedly, agrees..>
bitzo wrote:
levyte357 wrote: And for 1x room house party, 1x 2x18" reflex or 1x 18" mini scoop rules.
as I said in my first post, you can use bigger driver with simpler layout and more compact cabs. But the challenge to me is using a 12" to drop to a dubby frequency using scoopy layout. Plus I already modeled and listened my 18" scoop design
I understand Bitzo, experimenting does often reveal new techniques.
Guess I did all my experimenting with 12" drivers whilst at school.. <The joys of 2x12" reflex cab + 32Hz band on graphic eq smiley2 >
\"When in Vegas, do as the vegasians do\".
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13 years 7 months ago #16593
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Hi all,
see the first post for update about the first drawing.
However I put pinch of hoggy flavour and reduced the width to 37.6 (originally was 48.6). So check this out
see the first post for update about the first drawing.
However I put pinch of hoggy flavour and reduced the width to 37.6 (originally was 48.6). So check this out
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13 years 7 months ago #16594
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smiley32 . Nice!
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13 years 7 months ago #16596
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looking good try shortening the driver back baffle and adding a 45 degree angle to the start of the horn, this should keep the throat entry the same, but improve airflow through the first part of the horn.......
36mm front panel is a must, allso a 36mm back panel helps too, it wont effect the sim, but adds less colouration to the sound...... think on the lines of the pressure in the back chamber will have the same force on the front baffle as the rear...... 36mm for both will help reduce panel resonance....
36mm front panel is a must, allso a 36mm back panel helps too, it wont effect the sim, but adds less colouration to the sound...... think on the lines of the pressure in the back chamber will have the same force on the front baffle as the rear...... 36mm for both will help reduce panel resonance....
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13 years 7 months ago #16598
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to me the true weakpoint is the compression ratio, 1:5.76 gives a lot pressure for sure but...I'm not sure about its musicality.
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13 years 7 months ago #16599
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you want it tight to be able to control the driver and not let it flap, but too small and you will loose alot of spl......
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13 years 7 months ago #16600
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Here's the drawing and sim with bee's suggestion. The external dimension now are (dxwxh) 73.7x37.6x94, compression chamber volume corrected and braced mouth just in case. 
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13 years 7 months ago #16601
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its good to see that it plotted the same, but the sound coming out should be warmer in tone, with a better actual spl.... have you adjusted angle of driver and height in your sim......
and can you adjust the plott to 70db to 110db, so i can see how big the dip between the low and high point of plott is.....
and can you adjust the plott to 70db to 110db, so i can see how big the dip between the low and high point of plott is.....
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