file S118/RX18 Black boxes (yet again..)

9 years 1 week ago #15124 by levyte357
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Greetings squire

Common understanding regarding scoops is, if you have cabs with plenty of "throw",

A) Lay them horizontally mouth to mouth to reduce throw and enhance low freq extension
B) Stand them vertically to enhance "throw" and SPL (Arguably the same thing)

Your thoughts, especially regarding S118 ?

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9 years 1 week ago #15125 by saul
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is this supposed to be a PM?

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9 years 1 week ago #15126 by tony.a.s.s.
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I guess anyone can join in. No swearing though.
Regarding how to place them. If I only had one per side they would be stood upright to give everything else some height, but that isn't a technical consideration. I've always thought there is some value in standing them sideways. I have done club installs with 4 per side stacked sideways. I like the idea of the speaker part being on the floor to take advantage of the coupling. And then you have the speakers in a line above which will also couple. If two stacks are in one block, I would always put the speakers together, once again, to take advantage of coupling. Just one more thing, I know that some of the low end of the scoop comes from the horn, but it doesn't seem to be as punchy. I think there is more advantage for the speaker to be on the floor than the horn for that reason.

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9 years 1 week ago #15127 by levyte357
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saul wrote: is this supposed to be a PM?


:lol:

The reason I posted this here, is because it's Tony's product, and his house.. smiley2

No one is more qualified to comment on pros/cons of stacking S118s upright or horizontally.

I know what I would do, and why, just needed to hear it from "The Daddy"..

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9 years 1 week ago #15128 by tony.a.s.s.
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I have a big doorway and a mat that says welcome

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9 years 1 week ago #15129 by levyte357
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Tony.A.S.S. wrote: I have a big doorway and a mat that says welcome


smiley20

Thanks for the info MR T.

The Golden Palace venue is pretty huge, but still, with one of the crews stacks, the best sub SPL & definiton was approx 40M from the stack. (Typical flipping Superscooper behaviour :lol: )

So I'm guessing S118s horiz, mouth to mouth should do the job, problem is, how do you get kick bins and Midtops above 3x scoops horizontally !!? smiley26

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9 years 1 week ago #15130 by tony.a.s.s.
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I'll be at the Palace on the 2nd October, with the R2U system. I think it's a great venue with no slap back from anywhere
Regarding stacking, lots of Bods, chairs, ladder, luck, Bravery, not necessarily in that order. All the usual things.

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9 years 1 week ago #15131 by luton_soundman
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bravery is key, no holding back smiley2

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9 years 1 week ago #15138 by SamS
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this was some of the trouble i was experienceing on sunday. i dont know if your refering to us lev when u say the bass was nicer 40m away from stack? i felt that this was our problem. i prefered it when i was standing buy the food counter whilst we were playing.

i'm going to give them a go on their sides this weekend in bristol and see how they get along. hopefully ill notice the difference

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9 years 1 week ago #15140 by levyte357
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SamS wrote: this was some of the trouble i was experienceing on sunday. i dont know if your refering to us lev when u say the bass was nicer 40m away from stack? i felt that this was our problem. i prefered it when i was standing buy the food counter whilst we were playing.


I only did this test with Players Movement (Guy's with Superscoopers).

I just happened to be near the food counter, when they had a turn, and it was sounding dirty and deep.

Back in main hall, about 30M from stack, and it was OK'ish..

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